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the hello and welcome everybody who you

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might to today have heard already a

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lot about matomo from different angles from

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different use cases from beginner friendly content

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to acquire a topic for thoughtful

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focusing quite on experts and i guess

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a lot of questions about the topic

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of matomo the beginning from the usability

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to technical questions a lot of questions

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might have revised so that's why today

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we have her q and a session

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or you can ask her these questions

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you have about matomo to the

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sir speakers we have here today so

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the way this works is quite similar

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to the talks to have already had

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pier today they can see obviously the

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live streamer if you're watching and we

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have a chat room for this way

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you can ask her any question you

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have about matomo and there i will

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then forward this question

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to one of the five speakers we

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have here in the room so to

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give you a bit of time to

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collect her questions and post them in

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the chat room i can start by

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quickly introducing a our speakers here so

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let's start with an all canal is

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a metamora analytics or

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expert since two thousand and seven and

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is mostly focusing on training and doing

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consulting for all types of companies institutions

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always around about matomo analytics fifth and

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corning our second expert here is a

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also an expert mostly on her focusing

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conversion rate optimization he has a lot

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of experience with moto moiety will be

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able to answer your analytics related questions

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then behalf thomas to nature his seo

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and web analytics expert from their border

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between austria and germany and here you

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might know him from the chairman mccomb

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explanation

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videos hit us off from the to

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also extension motto more hell povich might

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your question about how to use moto

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more and how to solve issues using

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to use interface then we also have

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here as are far far off speakers

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when he is part of the mathematics

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is working full time on there mclemore

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caught development in the last years so

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he is part of their core development

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team and to expert for all the

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code related christians in matomo and besides

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this is also maintaining them automaton

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installation and device to attacked at a

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separate project will share a converts user

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agent into the nicer device information reports

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lastly we also have feared the boy

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ticker his part of the matomo complete

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and since then his supporting com panies

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with all operations along the tomo and

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yep the bitterness i hope everyone can

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see the screen and let's just wait

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to have a few minutes for questions

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maybe in the same meantime while people

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some one of you if any one

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of you have answered

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quick introduction or talk about some topic

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or they can talk about it now

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a question to all how do you

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learn something about matomo or what is

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your entry point or what was your

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or were there too you can ask

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questions and beyond this matomo camp

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heavy born maybe as first of all

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and maybe not everyone knows that there

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is a forum aboard and they can

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ask questions where you can ask questions

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in your mother tongue like germany and

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the the motto more support your cut

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if you take the matomo cloud version

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some tips how to get more knowledge

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and a good point a bitter forgot

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to introduce myself of course i am

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lucas winkler and most of here of

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course ma will know me from the

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matomo for whom i spent more a

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lot of my time answering people's question

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answering to get up issues and this

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your question is sir if you have

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any question about matomo if it's a

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general question something doesn't work on your

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best way probably the matomo for him

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stand and it's a great way to

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issue if you know that the finger

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do have heard definitive steps how to

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produce them you can skip the fallen

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a back issue and there are that

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way it ideally describing a lot of

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this way if people can see it

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it's a quickly organized under it's easier

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okay bye visit this introduction to have

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start very fonda question from peter jones

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to use us in the matomo into

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it will be possible to use groups

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in the future this will be useful

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there are hundreds of thousands of users

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this maybe sir stephen i personally don't

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know about this feature about this suggests

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someone hassle even suggested it until now

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if a large amount of users and

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some kind of grouping might be useful

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his site too many people at once

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and there had been a couple of

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requests m four and m more extends

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asking for groups but there currently aren't

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ten or all of their use a

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management feature say can be air also

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the issue is just having to manually

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your choice and to add to the

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as a bit of their delay so

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so valentine asks which a killer feature

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from google analytics do you think should

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customer report is a very great plugin

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maybe i missed something like secondary dimension

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not to make the customer report and

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feature request to to the second dimension

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feature but on the technical side it's

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well are missing somehow a highly asked

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to buy into google and eight excusable

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as google does to you or your

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still something which is kind of tacky

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so you cannot put it within the

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end of her marketers so a sink

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of walking mohan the integration of meta

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visualization system ought to have it's corner

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that this realization system is of paramount

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a good idea is simply a life

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question from peter tones hey they have

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client to migrated to matomo by what

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are your experiences of migrating period data

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one and it is it is possible

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possible but in case it can with

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my sql database are necessary and also

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things can break because the version jump

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has have been optimized and have been

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changed also so you should definitely make

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sure to have a real good backup

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before you start doing the that migration

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and then think also about some some

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outage of your matomo instance while you're

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instance and a workaround could be for

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example like you could just leave the

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tracker running or writing into a locked

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file and then after your migration is

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complete you can import this lock file

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with the replay law

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the functionality of the locking porter so

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you don't lose too much data

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so the the replay logging are probably

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the best solution for importing nearly this

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data that would have come into the

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instance while you had this outage but

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have a few hours of outage and

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hematoma instance so your users have to

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know and the stakeholders have to know

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but all in all i also updated

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i think twenty to thirty big instances

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to matomo from pv or from the

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early versions

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and everything went perfectly well

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one for a minor thing i also

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want to add is something a lot

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of fear even if it's a small

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instant something a lot of people are

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fighting there for if they have a

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really alter period version is that this

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really alter version of course also vans

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with a really old version of e

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h b and there might not even

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be a

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version of psp that is really old

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people russia is compatible with and then

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he was for tomoe vashon is compatible

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with so that if it's a really

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old version it might be useful to

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appear few intermediate champs of a few

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intermediate versions of matomo and maybe if

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their compatibility requirements also required also

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intermediate versions of dhb to make sure

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the migration van face as smooth as

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possible a lot of people might not

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know it but on belts automotive on

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the download page you can download air

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to throw the motto every single matomo

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version i figured has been released since

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two thousand and eight

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it's this way you can easily update

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to another old version before you to

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the next champ

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so

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another question form to let it sir

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is there a possibility to to aggregate

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that data directly in matomo saw the

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number of users grouped by a certain

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customer variable for instance she says i'm

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mostly using the a p i and

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then aggregate that data with python pandas

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personally i can't see much helpful things

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about it don't really have from much

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experience with an use case where you

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would have to aggregate data of costs

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that way you are doing it for

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your think they apply and then they're

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doing any data processing afterwards of course

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we're off

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always works but might not be the

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most idea one probably juliet will be

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good to elaborate a bit on that

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what you're trying to achieve because in

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the custom dimension reports you have everything

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grouped by the custom dimension in a

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in in the sense of that every

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key

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custom dimension has it's own round trip

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report if you're trying to group all

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other reports in the dashboard for example

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of for those accustomed dimensions combinations or

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a single accustomed dimension this is probably

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not possible in the in the dashboard

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at least so going with an external

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solution like

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like a python pandas or a tableau

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powerbi i meter base or something like

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that would be the way to go

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at least for the moment

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i have been a quick note to

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peter's previous explanation for every plane the

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luxor a parrot chris is a been

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a foreigner twice to go this way

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and escape attempt the downtime of the

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upgrade by afterwards replaying the saga looks

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at

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each tomato masala one of course has

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to pay attention that all requests sent

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to matomo i get requests not post

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requests as advice of course the data

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won't be written into every plots in

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the server logs

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and the mikael has another question about

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databases speed and he says that the

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database faith is a big issue and

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is it possible or has someone tried

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to use solar or any other database

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for quicker queries

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maybe that i can say something about

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it

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and as far as i know there

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aren't any plans to support of our

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databases because at some

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yeah it's it's heart m to start

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the boarding other databases when you have

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a software that should be available for

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your every user on a hosted system

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and and my sql is simply the

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mostly supported database

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indeed the main issue i think is

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if he wanted to add support for

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another database and it doesn't matter if

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it's for something a podcast is krell

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or something completely different it would always

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mean that you'd have to revise a

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huge portion of matomo

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and in this case it might even

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be quicker to simply export the data

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for matomo and if you're already rewriting

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it from scratch or to the queries

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in this database directly

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and of course the other thing is

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if it would be a writer a

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huge portion of matomo to support other

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databases data may be more specialized for

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analytics data is that either both vashon

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said that would differ quite a lot

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huge lever to need to be maintained

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in the future

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aa which is really hard to do

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or to myra credit come with only

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my credit compatible version would have to

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be dropped but this would mean that

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nearly everyone who can at the moment

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simply installing about amanda sava using my

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squirrel yet to be able to something

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like this are able to have major

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issues continuing to use moto

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when does the future so because of

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all of this i think it won't

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change in the near future yeah i've

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had my tumor will be my credit

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and maria depay only

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an interesting question by pizza makers is

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are there any ideas about integrating a

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half that i have that side carbon

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calculator which myth says how much impact

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your website has on the planet it

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could be a unique selling point for

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potential new users

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if no one else has something to

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say about this i think this is

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one of the use cases servitors would

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be a really nice matomo plugin because

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it's something only a few people would

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be interested in but it would be

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a nice feature for them and it's

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something you can

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quite easily to put a round of

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matomo without having to modify something or

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of the qr code so this would

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be a nice a simple plugin and

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if someone gets around to over the

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air programming it it will be really

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nice if they could publish it on

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the marketplace i think

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in the meantime maybe a question about

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her translation how does the translation process

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back in matomo hire if a hooker

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if i there either if haematoma isn't

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completely translated in a language i speak

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or if i notice a typo or

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sentence that doesn't really make sense in

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the matomo how can i fix this

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how can i report this maybe stefan

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has something to say about this

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mv recently and switched our translation platform

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to contribute to and all our translations

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are currently hosted on replicate it's another

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open source software to maintain translations and

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yeah everyone can em suggest

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or change the translations there to any

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language m and from there m the

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translations are automatically pushed to our github

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repository am and will later be included

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in any new release of matomo or

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any of our plugins

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okay then

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a bit more analytic surpise question from

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a reverse is sir

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they're currently using matomo more in order

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to safer page that they interpreted what

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they like to but we like to

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be able to categorize the pages based

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on his department and the data for

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this is already in the page and

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could you please let us know how

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to proceed

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this one is is basically what you

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can do is if the information is

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already there you should be able to

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store those kind of input within custom

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dimensions and then basically also be able

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to two seconds on this later on

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as well in the tumor would recommend

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to start

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measuring it together with with the default

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page view tracking and also adds to

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some certain custom dimension tracking with with

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the given values that you have for

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the given departments and store in the

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air and then you are able to

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filter it segment is or create custom

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reports with it as you wish

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yeah it should be easy be easily

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doable with the the technology typically you

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can just sell silkair there's the sir

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element on the page which isn't the

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future under fatah was just given html

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attribute so they can gallop this given

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attribute that they

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insult within the custom dimensions fitted in

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the matter more custom valuable configuration valuable

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within the tech manager and every tended

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to pages going to be loaded as

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this given element is on the page

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is going to grab it and put

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it as a custom they mention and

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then it will slice your cat

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finger is a cutting

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perhaps also as an important comment on

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exactly this problem is from the performance

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view of things and you should always

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tried to put as much business complexity

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in in the trekking runtime so try

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to put as much complexity as

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possible from your data reporting and dashboard

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reporting and to segment definitions etc tried

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to put it into the tech manager

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because

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if you have to filter for accustomed

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dimension it is very quick it is

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very performance very effective and also the

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the underlying my sql queries and if

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you for example have your segment definition

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and grouping one hundred a page your

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else

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to to try to to define your

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your branch or something else some page

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grouping of your segment it will be

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very ineffective and slow so try always

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to to do as much as possible

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in the tech manager with custom dimensions

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and track some events with extra data

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and so your performance days are

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says good

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yeah just noticed that i missed the

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question a bit above from melody that

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they have for problems aggregating certain reports

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for month liver parts of your data

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then to a daily reports in the

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intent of such report and to which

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a

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actions could we take to analyze the

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problem so i figure this is something

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that's hard to do to a genuine

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guy spot were how can one approach

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such an issue or how what is

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the easy way to get in the

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direction of the issue how to start

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troubleshooting

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so perhaps i was just start on

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on trying to answer that do well

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the troubleshooting probably starts

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with

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yup and making clear which part of

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the system makes this error so probably

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one thing to to keep in mind

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is that the archiving could be could

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fail on the month's monthly archives mostly

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mostly this is the case when the

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memory limit is reached so you will

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have to search in the server log

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files for errors in the archiving process

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when you have a look so if

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you are using the cron job and

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so you should make sure that you

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disable the browser archiving and i think

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we can attach some some links to

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to that page later on in the

567
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chat also to that you can make

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sure that you enabled the cronjob for

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the as in cronus or cutting of

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data and then you can also read

571
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on that page how to how to

572
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lock the things that disgruntled writes to

573
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the console how to

574
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plug it into the into a file

575
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and then analyze the that file for

576
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errors in the monthly archive generation and

577
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yeah that's that's probably in ninety percent

578
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of the cases the problem that the

579
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archiving shop is failing for some reason

580
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that's one general i think it could

581
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at www

582
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vice if the rear to issues with

583
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the reports maybe check the output of

584
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the archiving process if you are using

585
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a cone shop talk regularly call it

586
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or because then it can be quite

587
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verbose and the awesome time it that

588
00:27:13,085 --> 00:27:14,555
your venture can add to make it

589
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even more verbose and sometime

590
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you can find something beard or some

591
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violence into which sir i could hint

592
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to in which direction to look

593
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bearish a shot question from nicholas who

594
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has problems with the heatmaps and before

595
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i quickly recommend you to send a

596
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quick email about it to the premium

597
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plugin support team they can help you

598
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with this probably quite easily

599
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then another question from caesar because we

600
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talked about get and post requests previously

601
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if there is a way to switch

602
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all requests to get

603
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i can say something on that and

604
00:27:55,235 --> 00:27:57,905
it em by default and the matomo

605
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tracking users and send beacon from the

606
00:28:01,115 --> 00:28:03,455
browser which uses a post request you

607
00:28:03,455 --> 00:28:06,275
can either disable this was the method

608
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disable always use speaking or something like

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that or you can force them the

610
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request

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the method with set request method bosom

612
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should be javascript tracking options you can

613
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send you the tracking code

614
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the only thing to keep in mind

615
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there is of course a data limit

616
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of how much data can be sent

617
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in the get request a matomo all

618
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of all of the old versions automatically

619
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switch to a post request if the

620
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older data that would be simply be

621
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too large i mean i think

622
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it's a quite a lot of data

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that would need to be sent for

624
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to be the to launch it if

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i get but if their website you're

626
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tracking has enormously long you are also

627
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something like this this is something to

628
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maybe keep in mind just to mention

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it this will always be the case

630
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and if you are trekking m heatmaps

631
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am and

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stuff like that because it em tries

633
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to send all the hatem m html

634
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body and with a tracking request and

635
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that is required to send put to

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bed with post as get won't work

637
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and another question by valentine or average

638
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or was a better answer than a

639
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title by the i just want to

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mention it here and stream for the

641
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recording or if it is possible to

642
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set the custom time for a scheduled

643
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task for example to to stay at

644
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the scheduled tasks should always wanted the

645
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night went off yamato

646
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number of website visitors at the server

647
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has less load or something like this

648
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and as far as i know there

649
00:29:41,585 --> 00:29:44,135
isn't yet a feature like this it

650
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might be something that could be added

651
00:29:46,055 --> 00:29:48,035
and that a lot of people might

652
00:29:48,065 --> 00:29:50,495
be interested in a back around to

653
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have somebody to suggest that it's of

654
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course you can run them at almost

655
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casual task individually so if this is

656
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something you cap out you could

657
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if i set up a thing separate

658
00:30:02,525 --> 00:30:04,865
corn chops for older scheduled task and

659
00:30:04,865 --> 00:30:05,345
matomo

660
00:30:07,805 --> 00:30:10,865
i have been questioned by a team

661
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kata it said there are plans to

662
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introduce filtering much like what exists in

663
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google analytics because segments stone to cover

664
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always sets a which doesn't suit that

665
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purpose

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the thighs i know there is actually

667
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an issue on get up but em

668
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i don't know the current state of

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it but i guess it isn't bland

670
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currently

671
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yeah and i'm sharing the same and

672
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so i don't have the answer here

673
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,850
so for the guys who are not

674
00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:55,550
familiar with google analytics typically no matter

675
00:30:55,553 --> 00:30:57,470
more you get to a different way

676
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of walking so zef laker within the

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global set settings you can exclude by

678
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a p address and

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by adding for example the spam tracking

680
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prevention you can exclude bay countries

681
00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:11,480
but you don't have as much flexibility

682
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,670
as the google analytics filter which i

683
00:31:13,670 --> 00:31:16,346
including those two dimensions that they just

684
00:31:16,346 --> 00:31:19,700
to mention including as well user agent

685
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i forgot in google antics you of

686
00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:24,620
all your zoho dimensions possibility to use

687
00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:25,910
us filter to come in

688
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to filter out are included within a

689
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within a within google analytics and he

690
00:31:33,290 --> 00:31:35,240
stood at sir currently met and does

691
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,284
not offer them orlin and i don't

692
00:31:37,284 --> 00:31:39,710
know zeph plan of doing it yeah

693
00:31:39,710 --> 00:31:42,140
i posted a link to the get

694
00:31:42,140 --> 00:31:44,270
up is sure stefan refer to if

695
00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:46,214
you're interested entitled this topic i too

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i command you to

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a look at upper there

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in the meantime while i am looking

699
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for the chapter i am for question

700
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questioner i think to her always been

701
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twisting a tour or interesting or to

702
00:32:01,002 --> 00:32:03,380
hear is how can one contribute to

703
00:32:03,380 --> 00:32:06,800
matomo either a how can i report

704
00:32:06,830 --> 00:32:09,020
a notice of back in matomo how

705
00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:10,430
can reported on

706
00:32:10,430 --> 00:32:12,470
or if i know how to program

707
00:32:12,650 --> 00:32:14,600
how can i even fix it myself

708
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:19,520
okay so hey a fellow sufferer i

709
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,470
think the better the thing i mentioned

710
00:32:21,470 --> 00:32:24,260
in the beginning so if you're just

711
00:32:24,260 --> 00:32:26,900
have a vague issue and are not

712
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:28,970
sure of what is exactly going wrong

713
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:30,890
the easiest thing is to ask on

714
00:32:30,890 --> 00:32:34,040
the forearm and to that way find

715
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,390
out a better low savage

716
00:32:35,540 --> 00:32:38,120
exactly the issue what is going wrong

717
00:32:38,150 --> 00:32:40,580
if you know it or if that

718
00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:42,830
sir and if you know exactly what

719
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:45,560
is going wrong and over how someone

720
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,280
can reproduce it then a new criminal

721
00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:51,890
code then you can echo directly to

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get up and create to get up

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his shepherd of crosser

724
00:32:55,550 --> 00:32:57,740
the things that sets how to reproduce

725
00:32:57,740 --> 00:32:59,540
it makes it a lot easier to

726
00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:01,790
understand the issue makes it a lot

727
00:33:01,790 --> 00:33:04,610
easier to fix it because er oftentimes

728
00:33:04,610 --> 00:33:07,670
sir it's obvious for the person writing

729
00:33:07,670 --> 00:33:11,630
a github issue to know there it's

730
00:33:11,630 --> 00:33:13,760
obvious for them votre they are talking

731
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,080
about but if you're not

732
00:33:15,710 --> 00:33:16,970
they're up to date on what they

733
00:33:16,970 --> 00:33:19,610
are doing it's quite hard to understand

734
00:33:19,610 --> 00:33:22,430
it and is adding steps to exactly

735
00:33:22,430 --> 00:33:24,650
reproduce the issue makes it a lot

736
00:33:24,650 --> 00:33:27,080
easier to understand the issue and in

737
00:33:27,136 --> 00:33:29,120
that way also a lot easier to

738
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,250
fire developer to the packet and then

739
00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:31,760
fix it

740
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:36,763
and of course if you're you're a

741
00:33:36,774 --> 00:33:39,290
developer yourself and know how to fix

742
00:33:39,290 --> 00:33:42,020
it then at the easiest figures of

743
00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:45,020
crawford to change the code created importantly

744
00:33:45,020 --> 00:33:48,980
cost if the change and to contribute

745
00:33:48,980 --> 00:33:50,420
a tumor tumors yourself

746
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:54,587
the pune if you're a developer but

747
00:33:54,650 --> 00:33:57,350
don't know it they're not that familiar

748
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:59,810
with moto more than you can also

749
00:33:59,810 --> 00:34:04,070
go to their matomo developer page which

750
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:04,850
has a

751
00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:08,780
great pager about how to get started

752
00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:11,690
with the code base of matomo and

753
00:34:11,690 --> 00:34:13,670
how to set up a local motto

754
00:34:13,670 --> 00:34:16,340
more into the development instance which makes

755
00:34:16,340 --> 00:34:18,560
it a lot easier to contribute code

756
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,100
changes

757
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,540
can a ma analytics or a related

758
00:34:29,540 --> 00:34:33,080
question about funnels me before stefan arkansas

759
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,310
am

760
00:34:35,570 --> 00:34:37,370
at least see the question itself lie

761
00:34:37,373 --> 00:34:39,260
repeated for people who are watching the

762
00:34:39,260 --> 00:34:42,500
recording or talking about funded refers how

763
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:44,750
does it for homeless at whacking if

764
00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:46,489
you have a family like this where

765
00:34:46,489 --> 00:34:48,350
the separate first step is entered them

766
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,560
going to a conversion directly does it

767
00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:53,360
get to be fearless in the steps

768
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,550
afterwards as before

769
00:34:55,550 --> 00:34:56,659
article conversion

770
00:35:00,110 --> 00:35:01,820
maybe on all of the fun have

771
00:35:01,820 --> 00:35:03,830
something to say about it i'm not

772
00:35:03,830 --> 00:35:05,840
that familiar referred i can't really help

773
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,380
here advice the question would again be

774
00:35:09,380 --> 00:35:10,910
to ask the support team

775
00:35:12,890 --> 00:35:15,770
will you you can of course set

776
00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:17,480
your goal in there and the conversion

777
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,160
will be set in the second step

778
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,230
when when it's needs directly being a

779
00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:21,860
chiefs

780
00:35:22,910 --> 00:35:25,760
and it depends whether the fifth is

781
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,300
also being set as a conversion in

782
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:32,030
your goal configuration you can set it

783
00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:33,410
to allow to cool

784
00:35:34,430 --> 00:35:36,830
to make a conversion multiple times were

785
00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:38,060
to do it only once within the

786
00:35:38,060 --> 00:35:40,550
given this is the kind of things

787
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:43,730
matter of figuration was

788
00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:45,770
as soon as someone

789
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,080
moves across additional steps it depends on

790
00:35:51,170 --> 00:35:53,180
whether certain steps are required or not

791
00:35:54,350 --> 00:35:56,000
to check whether this instance has been

792
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,280
achieved and it really depends on your

793
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,597
goal configuration settings

794
00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:11,270
a question by a mass alert i

795
00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:13,400
think a lot of people are asking

796
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,070
is they have a website and they

797
00:36:16,070 --> 00:36:18,530
want to collect a reader for your

798
00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:20,840
feedback so feedback by the people visiting

799
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,390
the website something like how does the

800
00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:25,910
story make you feel and

801
00:36:26,254 --> 00:36:28,130
it makes sense to collect the state

802
00:36:28,134 --> 00:36:30,350
and moto moto moto connected to the

803
00:36:30,350 --> 00:36:32,600
outer data and can't could this be

804
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,180
realistically be implemented on top of moto

805
00:36:35,180 --> 00:36:37,070
more of a moto my state store

806
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:40,220
and of course he could to a

807
00:36:40,221 --> 00:36:43,580
program something i kiss rather easily yourself

808
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:46,190
if you're to the user interface pot

809
00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:48,620
yourself and then sent that data for

810
00:36:48,620 --> 00:36:51,260
example a ser or custom event or

811
00:36:51,260 --> 00:36:54,440
something like this but by chen sir

812
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:57,197
we have a talk tomorrow by thomas

813
00:36:57,230 --> 00:36:59,870
a person is talking about a plugin

814
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,960
they developed which dusk right exactly this

815
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,050
so richer it's a feedback or feature

816
00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:06,350
to her

817
00:37:06,380 --> 00:37:09,740
website you're using matomo so you might

818
00:37:09,740 --> 00:37:12,380
want to listen to this talk tomorrow

819
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,130
yeah i added the link within the

820
00:37:16,148 --> 00:37:19,160
the chat and i think doomed focus

821
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,130
yourself on the the fallen which is

822
00:37:22,130 --> 00:37:23,900
under the patronage that i that they

823
00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:26,630
show you because a sink that's in

824
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:29,240
the link that that you sent your

825
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:31,790
like eight different buttons a sing that

826
00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:33,680
you can add with this plugin

827
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,890
custom layout in order to have more

828
00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:39,080
than a than two buttons and twelve

829
00:37:39,110 --> 00:37:41,000
eight like yours are the best thing

830
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is yes of course westward to thomas

831
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:44,930
but the walks in sp for me

832
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two years on display again as though

833
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:48,350
that's going to be a pregnant pitcher

834
00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:50,870
saw that sir mod the path where

835
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your eyes go down let's say that

836
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:53,810
the it's always

837
00:37:53,870 --> 00:37:56,120
good to to discuss wheeler with him

838
00:37:56,510 --> 00:37:59,140
too scene factor was edited and the

839
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spirit behind and the and i have

840
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the chance to avert to assist to

841
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,100
several conferences at the move that maidens

842
00:38:07,130 --> 00:38:08,930
it's really impressive and great feature

843
00:38:18,140 --> 00:38:20,341
he may be in the meantime with

844
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,720
her mom marketing really or usa related

845
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,450
question that i get a lot of

846
00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:29,840
times is there that now that there

847
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,540
is matomo tech manager what are the

848
00:38:32,540 --> 00:38:35,150
differences between using matomo direct

849
00:38:35,150 --> 00:38:37,460
your love way and the using matomo

850
00:38:37,460 --> 00:38:38,270
tag manager

851
00:38:41,660 --> 00:38:43,310
so i i could say a few

852
00:38:43,310 --> 00:38:44,120
words about that

853
00:38:46,460 --> 00:38:50,630
so basically or generally are both things

854
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:52,250
are working and will work in the

855
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:56,060
future so that's the important thing to

856
00:38:56,060 --> 00:39:01,820
know at first but mostly also with

857
00:39:01,820 --> 00:39:05,660
bigger teams working on an matomo also

858
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:06,590
more than one on

859
00:39:06,590 --> 00:39:09,440
analyst and if you have more than

860
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,370
one requirement collected for tracking capabilities and

861
00:39:13,370 --> 00:39:16,280
everything and the tech manager makes more

862
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,820
sense than the legacy tracking code and

863
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:23,000
the reason for that is probably if

864
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,750
you want to extend your your trekking

865
00:39:26,750 --> 00:39:28,910
the concept and you want to have

866
00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:32,300
more tracking features collect accustomed dimensions events

867
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:36,080
and have some behavioral stuff included into

868
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,320
the tracking code for example if it's

869
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,630
just a simple thing like trekking clicks

870
00:39:41,630 --> 00:39:44,300
on on a call to action button

871
00:39:44,330 --> 00:39:46,910
or some kind of other interaction stuff

872
00:39:47,330 --> 00:39:50,540
and you would always have to have

873
00:39:50,570 --> 00:39:53,390
a release cycle and close contact to

874
00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:56,330
the developer of the of the website

875
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,040
to just give him the code and

876
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,130
prepare everything and he has to included

877
00:40:01,130 --> 00:40:02,690
in the website and then you have

878
00:40:02,690 --> 00:40:04,430
to release a new version of the

879
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:06,260
website to include the new version of

880
00:40:06,260 --> 00:40:07,040
the tracking code

881
00:40:07,490 --> 00:40:09,500
and then in worst case you have

882
00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:11,720
made an arrow anywhere audio you need

883
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:14,570
more data you have a stakeholder that

884
00:40:15,890 --> 00:40:18,110
called with a with a feature request

885
00:40:18,118 --> 00:40:19,970
in the last second and it didn't

886
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:23,510
bring it into the current sprint or

887
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:26,270
something like that and so it's quite

888
00:40:26,270 --> 00:40:28,940
a nightmare to maintain this this kind

889
00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:31,220
of code with a tech miniature code

890
00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:34,940
and it's mostly or most of the

891
00:40:34,940 --> 00:40:35,870
things you can do

892
00:40:36,675 --> 00:40:39,645
the tech miniature configuration in the generic

893
00:40:39,645 --> 00:40:43,215
user interface so this is this is

894
00:40:43,215 --> 00:40:44,925
not a free ticket for everyone to

895
00:40:44,925 --> 00:40:48,525
to do everything with tags and release

896
00:40:48,525 --> 00:40:50,625
new container versions and stuff because you

897
00:40:50,625 --> 00:40:52,815
can break the site with that ah

898
00:40:52,845 --> 00:40:54,465
so there should be a workflow for

899
00:40:54,465 --> 00:40:56,535
that but basically it is

900
00:40:56,595 --> 00:40:58,755
your time to market for the for

901
00:40:58,755 --> 00:41:00,885
the trekking is much better than with

902
00:41:00,885 --> 00:41:04,125
the legacy code and also the maintain

903
00:41:04,125 --> 00:41:06,645
abilities is much better and you can

904
00:41:06,645 --> 00:41:09,495
feed information that you can't collect from

905
00:41:09,495 --> 00:41:12,615
the from the html directly you can

906
00:41:12,615 --> 00:41:15,105
gather of your data layer so that's

907
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:16,673
the the single point

908
00:41:16,725 --> 00:41:19,065
of a connection between you and the

909
00:41:19,365 --> 00:41:21,975
developer or the cms the data layer

910
00:41:22,365 --> 00:41:24,885
and you have to ask the developer

911
00:41:25,425 --> 00:41:27,105
to pass over information that you can

912
00:41:27,105 --> 00:41:28,692
get from the html and then to

913
00:41:28,692 --> 00:41:31,215
composite over to the tech manager and

914
00:41:31,215 --> 00:41:33,825
process everything with it so it makes

915
00:41:33,825 --> 00:41:35,865
things and life much easier here

916
00:41:37,965 --> 00:41:39,495
that was the truth noticed if you're

917
00:41:39,495 --> 00:41:41,565
really interested in this topic you might

918
00:41:41,565 --> 00:41:43,335
want to leave the session right now

919
00:41:43,335 --> 00:41:45,405
and go to the other lifestream boom

920
00:41:45,405 --> 00:41:48,855
because thomas person is currently talking about

921
00:41:48,945 --> 00:41:50,895
matomo tag men are trying to basics

922
00:41:50,895 --> 00:41:51,285
of it

923
00:41:52,665 --> 00:41:56,385
not in addition you have also everything

924
00:41:56,385 --> 00:42:00,105
in one place and every tracking scripts

925
00:42:00,135 --> 00:42:02,955
you do you know where the tracking

926
00:42:02,955 --> 00:42:05,625
script is implemented and so on and

927
00:42:05,625 --> 00:42:09,045
if you do a relaunch you don't

928
00:42:09,045 --> 00:42:11,595
have to make a list of all

929
00:42:11,595 --> 00:42:12,615
the tracking scr

930
00:42:12,615 --> 00:42:16,035
crypts in page path five hundred and

931
00:42:16,035 --> 00:42:18,315
so on until you you can only

932
00:42:18,315 --> 00:42:21,675
open the technica contain i'd see which

933
00:42:21,675 --> 00:42:23,085
scripts you're using

934
00:42:24,255 --> 00:42:28,420
sometimes it's easier to troubleshoot everything up

935
00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:32,295
with the development or debug view and

936
00:42:32,295 --> 00:42:36,465
you have some templates some you can

937
00:42:36,465 --> 00:42:38,655
fill in so you don't have to

938
00:42:39,255 --> 00:42:42,105
code something if you're not familiar with

939
00:42:42,105 --> 00:42:44,295
coding until you can use

940
00:42:44,295 --> 00:42:47,775
use some templates and to integrate some

941
00:42:47,775 --> 00:42:52,035
external services and yeah and if you

942
00:42:52,035 --> 00:42:54,705
want to rollback you have an version

943
00:42:54,705 --> 00:42:57,225
control and i think it's easier to

944
00:42:57,225 --> 00:43:01,665
roll back tack miniature version then the

945
00:43:01,995 --> 00:43:04,455
release version so i think

946
00:43:04,455 --> 00:43:07,875
in time you can easy rollback of

947
00:43:07,905 --> 00:43:11,235
the russian intact miniature and the like

948
00:43:11,235 --> 00:43:13,215
up to say you have to go

949
00:43:13,215 --> 00:43:15,555
to the developer and say okay can

950
00:43:15,555 --> 00:43:20,295
you reverse please the last version and

951
00:43:20,295 --> 00:43:24,375
so it's it's easier and yeah sometimes

952
00:43:24,375 --> 00:43:24,615
you can

953
00:43:24,616 --> 00:43:28,635
can see you have also documented who

954
00:43:28,635 --> 00:43:32,265
changes what barricade in the development you

955
00:43:32,265 --> 00:43:34,455
have this too but there you have

956
00:43:34,815 --> 00:43:38,235
the use and permission management in one

957
00:43:38,235 --> 00:43:42,585
place and i think sum up this

958
00:43:42,675 --> 00:43:44,775
are all very good feature

959
00:43:44,775 --> 00:43:47,145
us and i think er in mind

960
00:43:47,475 --> 00:43:52,065
i would never integrate tracking scripts without

961
00:43:52,065 --> 00:43:55,725
and container without matomo tech ledger or

962
00:43:56,385 --> 00:43:59,685
something else something or some other tech

963
00:43:59,685 --> 00:44:00,345
managers

964
00:44:08,715 --> 00:44:11,489
hey i think i have answered most

965
00:44:11,489 --> 00:44:16,005
though the questions of course the matomo

966
00:44:16,005 --> 00:44:18,585
camp thousand and now we still have

967
00:44:18,615 --> 00:44:20,202
a rest of the day and then

968
00:44:20,228 --> 00:44:22,935
full day tomorrow and there if you

969
00:44:22,935 --> 00:44:25,605
have any more questions just feel free

970
00:44:25,605 --> 00:44:26,775
to ask them in the chat

971
00:44:26,775 --> 00:44:26,835
yeah

972
00:44:28,335 --> 00:44:30,165
people will still be here people will

973
00:44:30,195 --> 00:44:32,925
still be able to answer and maybe

974
00:44:33,195 --> 00:44:35,685
if you wanted to talk to other

975
00:44:35,685 --> 00:44:39,075
people attend the advertisement in the breaks

976
00:44:39,075 --> 00:44:41,355
or maybe after the last talk today

977
00:44:41,685 --> 00:44:43,335
or you can go to meet that

978
00:44:43,335 --> 00:44:46,245
matomo camped at ark and their dad

979
00:44:46,275 --> 00:44:48,094
talk to other attendees

980
00:44:48,165 --> 00:44:50,505
matomo camp maybe some of us will

981
00:44:50,505 --> 00:44:51,735
be there i'm not sure

982
00:44:53,985 --> 00:44:55,605
well thank you very much for all

983
00:44:55,605 --> 00:44:57,825
the questions that you ask can we

984
00:44:57,825 --> 00:44:59,265
hope that you are her having a

985
00:44:59,265 --> 00:45:00,195
great mentor mckim

986
00:45:03,015 --> 00:45:03,885
thank you very much

987
00:45:04,995 --> 00:45:06,285
they have an assistant in guys

988
00:45:07,425 --> 00:45:07,995
you too

989
00:45:09,855 --> 00:45:11,235
i know right